Talk:Technology/Archive-03

Time & Place

 * Tuesday November 7, 2006
 * Scheduled for 5-6PM Pacific Time
 * via Yahoo! Messenger
 * URL: http://act.wikia.com/wiki/Technology (Drupal modules & permissions)
 * URL: http://act.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Technology (next meeting)
 * URL: http://act.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Technology/Archive-02 (last meeting)

Contacts:

 * Mariko Nakanashi: YahooID chibio2001, zzcat @pacbell.net
 * Keath Rhymer: YahooID keathrhymer, Keath @basenjirescue.us
 * John Walling: YahooID wallingconsulting, wallingconsulting @yahoo.com

Agenda outline

 * 1. Introductions
 * 2. Start meeting
 * 3. Roll call
 * 4. Minutes
 * 5. Old Business - see list below
 * * Goals
 * * Projects
 * * Assignments
 * * Resources
 * * Q&A
 * 6. New business
 * * Assignments
 * * Other topics
 * * Q&A
 * 7. Schedule next meeting:
 * 8. Adjourn meeting

Present

 * John
 * Mariko
 * Keath

Task Progress

 * Mariko
 * %Interviewed JoAnne and got her initial requirements for new web site.


 * Keath


 * John

Completed Tasks

 * Mariko


 * Keath


 * John

New Tasks

 * John
 * *setup wiki page for Mariko and Keath to outline topics for new website
 * http://act.wikia.com/wiki/TechnologyWebDesign


 * Mariko
 * *gather requirements for new website in
 * http://act.wikia.com/wiki/TechnologyWebDesign


 * Keath
 * *gather requirements for new website in
 * http://act.wikia.com/wiki/TechnologyWebDesign

GOALS

 * ACT goals
 * * Build national infrastructure for animal relief & rescue during disasters
 * * Develop relationships and collaborate with animal welfare groups
 * * Sponsor projects to get animals in disaster zones adopted to new homes
 * * Help members to get qualified to enter disaster zones


 * ACT-Technology goals
 * * Support ACT mission with information management for Corporation and Committees
 * * Integrate information resources for ACT members - "one stop shopping"
 * * Provide resources for members to be proactive - not just waiting for email.
 * * Maintain visibility & openness with Yahoo groups
 * * Develop IM standards for ACT members to improve communications
 * * Upgrade existing ACT web site.

Database

 * * Developing data model for ACT enterprise database
 * * http://act.wikia.com/wiki/Database
 * * http://docs.google.com/ ACT-Data-Model (requires invitation)

Website

 * * Content Managment System (CMS) and Customer Relationship Management (CRM) website to integrate corporate information and committee functions with contact information.
 * * http://animalcrisisteam.tripod.com/ Old Home Page - still primary
 * * http://www.animalcrisisteam.com/ New Home Page
 * * http://www.animalcrisisteam.com/drupal/ ACT CMS
 * * http://drupal.org/features CMS info
 * * http://civicrm.org/ CRM source
 * * http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRM/CiviCRM+Documentation CRM info
 * * http://www.animalcrisisteam.com/moodle/ Course management system

ASSIGNMENTS

 * Updated: 15:20 11/6/2006

Mariko's Tasks

 * (* pending) (% in progress) (x completed)
 * % study Drupal and read some case studies and examples
 * * study CRM
 * * Study ACT tripod website and get requirements from JoAnne
 * * Document tripod site http://animalcrisisteam.tripod.com/
 * * List forms required for new website
 * * Design new ACT website for Drupal

Keath's Tasks

 * (* pending) (% in progress) (x completed)
 * % study Drupal documentation
 * * study CRM documentation
 * * get committee requirements from Sharon - for CMS development

John's Tasks

 * (* pending) (% in progress) (x completed)
 * % Project Management
 * % develop Work Breakdown Structure
 * * develop timelines for projects & tasks http://www.1stmanager.com/
 * x add resource links to ACT wiki http://act.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Technology
 * x setup paid account at ByetHost for animalcrisisteam.com to remove banners
 * % Database Project
 * % evaluate design software to make data model diagrams: http://www.casestudio.com/
 * % design enterprise data model http://act.wikia.com/wiki/Database
 * * develop framework using data model and CMS+CMR
 * % Drupal Project
 * * Update Drupal theme
 * * install thru-the-web-editor TinyMCE
 * * setup Drupal sections for Demos, Corporate, Transport, Rescue, Operations, Supply, etc based on committee functions. Give committee leaders Drupal roles for their sections
 * x Document Drupal permissions http://act.wikia.com/wiki/Technology
 * x send Access permissions to Mariko and Keath
 * x setup clean urls for Drupal
 * * CRM Project
 * * install CRM http://civicrm.org/
 * * Moodle Project
 * * install Course management system Moodle http://www.moodle.org/

Unassigned Tasks

 * * design web CMS applications for public use
 * * design web CMS/CRM applications for Committees
 * * design web CMS/CRM applications for Corporate web site
 * * design web forms to collect data for new members, rescue affiliates, supply info, etc.
 * * interview JoAnne to get requirements for corporate website
 * * interview Sharon & Committee leaders for CMS/CRM requirements
 * * migrate ACT web site from tripod after requirements are documented
 * * streamline IM for members (candidates: Trillian, Drupal, ?)

RESOURCES

 * * ACT Org Chart: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/ACT-Technology/files/
 * * ACT spreadsheets: http://docs.google.com/ by invitation
 * * ACT web CMS: http://www.animalcrisisteam.com/drupal/ (CMS under development)
 * * ACT web homepage: http://animalcrisisteam.tripod.com/ (interim web site)
 * * ACT web homepage: http://www.animalcrisisteam.com/ (under development at ByetHost)
 * * ACT web map: http://www.communitywalk.com/map/11627 Disaster Situation Map
 * * ACT web wiki: http://act.wikia.com/
 * * ACT web wiki: http://act.wikia.com/wiki/Database data model
 * * ACT web wiki: http://act.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Technology meeting minutes
 * * ACT web wiki: http://act.wikia.com/wiki/Technology Drupal modules & permissions
 * * CMS definition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_management_system
 * * CMS Drupal: http://drupal.org/features
 * * CRM definition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Customer_relationship_management
 * * CRM: http://civicrm.org/ (Addin for Drupal CMS)
 * * CRM: http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRM/CiviCRM+Documentation
 * * Data design tool: http://www.casestudio.com/enu/download.aspx (installed by John)
 * * Moodle Course Management System: http://www.moodle.org/
 * * Project management: http://www.1stmanager.com/ (task assignments and gantt charts)
 * * Tiny MCE http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/ (Drupal addin thru-the-web editor)
 * * Trillian IM Client: http://www.ceruleanstudios.com/

Part 1: John & Mariko
Start of Mariko buffer: Tue Nov 07 18:43:10 2006 [17:01] Mariko: hi [17:01] John: hello [17:02] Mariko: flooding in wa [17:02] John: yes [17:02] Mariko: is it really bad in some areas? i saw the map/ [17:03] John: mostly roads, but some areas have evacuated [17:03] Mariko: is ACT acting? [17:03] John: no to my knowledge - Posado's is acting [17:03] Mariko: hm. this kind of real-time incident update feature is needed in ACT website. [17:04] John: we can add rsss to the drupal site [17:04] John: rss [17:04] John: also the frontpage can carry latest news [17:04] Mariko: other orgs can utilize ACT site, e.g., pasado needs flat boats. [17:04] John: yes [17:05] Mariko: it's like a clearninghouse. [17:05] John: we can make announcements for other orgs [17:06] John: i see you had a talk with joanne [17:06] Mariko: brief reply. i need to present her my thought so that she can give me feedback. [17:07] Mariko: it's easier for people to respond to what is there, rather than think up things by themselvels. [17:07] John: once we get somethings working on the drupal, you can use it to present ideas [17:07] Mariko: prototyping would work well in this case. [17:08] John: i added some blocks in the right sidebar [17:08] John: we need to go thru the modules to see which ones we need [17:08] Mariko: i saw it. [17:08] Mariko: yes [17:09] Mariko: we need some working framework so that we can SEE the real thing that's working. [17:10] John: i am keeping notes on the wiki http://act.wikia.com/wiki/Technology [17:10] John: there is a list of core modules and their status + contributed modules of interest [17:10] John: at the bottom is a list of themes i found useful [17:11] John: we need to get the gallery module [17:11] Mariko: i need to go through page by page and get familiar with it. [17:12] John: do you mean the drupal install? [17:12] John: play with the blocks settings [17:13] Mariko: it's not available now? [17:13] Mariko: i got an error message [17:13] John: i will look at it [17:13] Mariko: http://www.animalcrisisteam.com/ [17:13] John: http://www.animalcrisisteam.com/drupal/ [17:14] Mariko: i hope my isp has the problem with connection. i've been having some disturbance a few days ago. [17:14] Mariko: doesn't have the problem [17:14] Mariko: ha [17:14] John: can you access the drupal? [17:15] Mariko: yes, i'm looking at it. [17:15] John: you don't show on the log [17:16] John: and you don't show on the online users - i guess there is a lag [17:16] Mariko: do i have to log in? i see 1 use and 1 guest. [17:17] John: right - guest [17:17] John: go ahead and log in [17:17] Mariko: forgot the password. [17:17] Mariko: i need to search the e-mail [17:17] John: duckdog [17:17] Mariko: ah, right. [17:17] Mariko: i'll call my dog duck. [17:18] Mariko: ok, i see me. [17:20] Mariko: how does a forum interface look like? [17:20] John: i logged in as a site architect so i see the same permissions as you do [17:23] John: i clicked Create Content [17:23] John: Forum Topic [17:24] Mariko: i see pasado's info [17:25] John: i added a topic and it appears in the right side bar [17:25] Mariko: i'll log out and see how it looks like for a guest [17:25] John: i clicked more .. and then John's forum [17:26] Mariko: ok, i checked how it looks [17:27] Mariko: do we have to keep the info of online users? [17:27] John: no, that is a block configuration [17:27] Mariko: if we have hundreds of people (!) accessing the site, it'll clutter the page [17:28] John: we can add or remove blocks or move them around the page [17:28] John: right now we can clutter until we know what we need and what we don't need [17:28] John: also, you say which pages show which blocks [17:29] Mariko: i was thinking about the other web page. [17:29] John: so something can appear on the frontpage but not on other pages [17:29] Mariko: there are too many sites to look at right now. [17:29] John: you can limit select blocks to the frontpage [17:30] John: and you can limit select blocks to a sub-tree of the site [17:30] Mariko: ok [17:30] Mariko: what is http://www.animalcrisisteam.com/ for? [17:31] John: it is temprary until we have the drupal pages working [17:31] John: temporary [17:31] Mariko: ok, so we don't have to worry about this temporary site; just what we have now as the basis for designing. [17:31] Mariko: a new one with drupal [17:33] John: http://www.animalcrisisteam.com/  will hold a splash page directing users to other pages like http://www.animalcrisisteam.com/drupal/ plus other pages [17:33] John: drupal will be the main page [17:34] John: however, i plan to add other subdirectories like http://www.animalcrisisteam.com/moodle/  for coursework [17:34] John: see http://www.moodle.org/ [17:35] Mariko: i like it. pretty clean and easy to navigate it seems. [17:35] John: what is it? [17:35] Mariko: moodle [17:36] John: it will be used for training on FEMA and other topics [17:36] Mariko: oh, i see, is that what sharon told the group about? [17:36] Mariko: who's creating the content? [17:36] John: Sharon and Joanne at first [17:37] John: anyone with expertise can contribute [17:37] John: if you have Teacher status, you can setup a course [17:38] Mariko: that's great. ACT can invite other groups, too. Oh, and the Bird Doctor can write something for taking care of birds! [17:38] John: yes! we can invite experts to create content [17:38] John: Vets help [17:38] John: Vets can help [17:39] Mariko: animal CPR (JoAnne is taking a course tomorrow?). [17:39] Mariko: i'm planning to get one, too, at my local Red Cross [17:39] John: we can keep track of track of member completion of courses [17:40] John: if someone completes a course, they can add to the content [17:40] John: an outside course [17:40] John: yes, Joanne is taking CPR [17:41] John: shall we rip through the agenda? [17:41] Mariko: ye, i don't think keath is coming [17:42] John: 5:41pm Pacific time [17:42] John: just a moment [17:44] John: go to http://act.wikia.com/wiki/Technology and click Discussion at the top of the page [17:44] Mariko: i was looking at this before [17:45] John: i just entered who is present [17:46] John: let's scroll down to Old Business your tasks [17:47] Mariko: let's see how it turns out if i copy multiple lines [17:49] Mariko: i think i'll incorporate both this old tripod site and the temporary site, with the idea of committees. [17:50] John: are you going to gather committee requirements? [17:50] Mariko: no, i'll wait for keath's input. [17:50] Mariko: it's under his tasks. [17:50] John: so you will setup a framework for committees? [17:51] Mariko: yes, just placeholders [17:51] Mariko: i don't know what they want inside. [17:51] John: we can use an outline to describe the new site [17:51] Mariko: explain, please [17:52] John: in wiki format [17:52] John: #Main [17:52] Mariko: i see, [17:52] Mariko: the outline format [17:52] John: ##Submain 1 [17:52] John: etc. let setup a demo page [17:52] John: on the wiki [17:53] John: http://act.wikia.com/wiki/TechnologyWebDesign [17:54] Mariko: ok, so we can use this page for putting up outline for committees to look at? [17:54] Mariko: or do they themselves play around using this page? [17:55] John: we can open it to committees [17:55] John: do you have a wiki account? [17:55] Mariko: i think that's better. they can "visualize" what they have in their minds. [17:55] Mariko: no. [17:55] Mariko: do i? [17:55] John: go to the create link at the top [17:55] John: create account [17:57] Mariko: i think i made an accout when there was NDAR [17:57] Mariko: ok, i'm in. [17:57] John: edit the outline [17:58] John: by using an outline you can specify a tree structure to the site [17:59] John: as content becomes available you can link to it and to              old content for comparison [17:59] John: can you make a link with wiki markup? [17:59] Mariko: ok. need to learn how to create outline in wiki [17:59] Mariko: don't know yet. [17:59] Mariko: i've never worked on witki. [18:00] John: just use hash marks, that is why i asked you to use edit, so you can see how the outline is made [18:00] John: # leve one [18:00] John: ## level two [18:00] John: ### level 3 [18:00] John: etc. [18:00] John: i will add a link to the outline [18:00] Mariko: i'll wait and take look in edit [18:01] John: i added a link to google [18:01] Mariko: cool, pretty easy. [18:01] John: yes, make an outline and add links as needed [18:02] Mariko: ok, we can put this kind of brief tutorial somewhere so that committees can play around themselves in their own committee web design outline pages? [18:03] John: we can setup subsections [18:04] Mariko: some people are visually adept, some are not; i wonder committees can work on wiki outline to put their ideas into outline format? [18:05] John: i added a Rescue item to the outline that links to a Rescue section [18:05] John: each item in the outline can link to a section below [18:06] John: = Level 1 section= [18:06] John: === Level 2 section === [18:06] John: == Level 2 section == [18:06] John: === Level 3 section === [18:06] John: so ### corresponds to === [18:06] John: etc. [18:07] John: first build the outline [18:07] John: then add the sections below [18:07] John: for details [18:07] John: once they layout is stable, construction can begin [18:08] John: an in page link looks like this or section [18:08] John: the second example hides the # symbol [18:08] *** "Mariko" signed off at Tue Nov 07 18:08:57 2006. [18:09] Mariko: is this window still on? [18:09] John: yes [18:09] Mariko: oh, good. [18:09] John: what was your last feed? [18:09] Mariko: i needed to sign in again. [18:09] Mariko: John: i added a Rescue item to the outline that links to a Rescue section [18:10] Mariko: i was trying to [edit] the wiki page [18:10] John: [18:05] John: i added a Rescue item to the outline that links to a Rescue section [18:05] John: each item in the outline can link to a section below [18:06] John: = Level 1 section= [18:06] John: === Level 2 section === [18:06] John: == Level 2 section == [18:06] John: === Level 3 section === [18:06] John: so ### corresponds to === [18:06] John: etc. [18:07] John: first build the outline [18:07] John: then add the sections below [18:10] John: [18:07] John: for details [18:07] John: once they layout is stable, construction can begin [18:08] John: an in page link looks like this or section [18:08] John: the second example hides the # symbol [18:08] *** "Mariko" signed off at Tue Nov 07 18:08:57 2006. [18:10] John: i was discussing how to setup the outline to link to               sections further down the page [18:11] Mariko: i see. sections are deliniated by === [18:11] Mariko: or = or == [18:11] John: you can also skip the outline, and use the Table of Contents for the Outline by adding all the section headers [18:12] John: that would be easier [18:12] Mariko: how do i do that? [18:13] John: add sections for each part of the website [18:13] John: = level 1 = [18:13] John: == level 2 == [18:13] John: etc. [18:14] John: places the table of contents, which is automatic after the third topic is added [18:15] Mariko: now i see [18:15] Mariko: _TOC_ at the top. [18:15] John: i added but it isn't necessary if you have more than 3 headers [18:16] Mariko: if there are lots of headers, then TOC will be pretty long. [18:16] Mariko: but it's useful for navigational purposes when the page is                too long to fit on the screen [18:17] John: yes, you can have [18:17] John: no table of contents [18:17] Mariko: ok, so keath can talk with committees and tell them to                start putting down some ideas they have in their minds. [18:17] John: i converted the page to use headers only - no explicit outline [18:18] Mariko: can users toggle between how the page is displayed? [18:18] Mariko: that'd be neat. [18:18] John: toggle between what? [18:19] Mariko: the page with outline and the one with headers only [18:19] John: hmmm [18:19] Mariko: keath is online [18:20] Mariko: i'll save this conversation in case we are going to go converence. [18:20] Mariko: conference [18:21] John: can you invite him to this session, when i tried, it opened a new window [18:22] John: 6:21 pm pacific time [18:22] Mariko: can i invite him to this one? when I click his icon, a new window opens. [18:23] *** "Mariko" signed on at Tue Nov 07 18:23:08 2006. [18:23] John: i will invite you to the one i have with him [18:23] Mariko: ok. [18:24] *** You have been disconnected. Tue Nov 07 18:24:37 2006. [18:24] *** "Mariko" signed on at Tue Nov 07 18:24:42 2006. [18:24] *** You have been disconnected. Tue Nov 07 18:24:53 2006. [18:24] *** "Mariko" signed on at Tue Nov 07 18:24:57 2006. [18:25] John: i'm going to try using the yahoo client [18:25] Mariko: ok. [18:25] *** You have been disconnected. Tue Nov 07 18:25:09 2006. [18:25] *** "Mariko" signed on at Tue Nov 07 18:25:12 2006. [18:27] John: having problems [18:27] Mariko: what problem? [18:27] Mariko: should i try? [18:42] John: discussion moved to new window with keath [18:42] Mariko: ok [18:42] John: closing the session End of Mariko buffer: Tue Nov 07 18:43:10 2006

Part 2: John & Mariko
Start of Mariko buffer: Tue Nov 07 19:54:44 2006 [18:43] Mariko: which session? [18:43] John: the old session [18:43] Mariko: ok, so i'll close it too [18:44] John: i lost you on the session with Keath [18:44] Mariko: conference again? [18:45] John: sorry for the mixup - i was trying to clear the old session not start a new one [18:45] Mariko: it seems it's better to send keath all the links and insturctions on how to make wiki outlines. [18:46] John: yea, he seems to have a lag time [18:46] John: try this http://act.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Technology [18:47] John: no don't try it the damn icon got into it [18:47] John: sorry i was trying to talk to keath [18:47] John: shall we wrap this up? [18:47] Mariko: haha [18:48] John: keath needs a lot of help [18:48] Mariko: i can im with keath about wiki thing later [18:48] Mariko: or i can send him word doc or graphics explaining how to               do wiki outlning [18:48] John: that would help [18:48] Mariko: he can get all the info about committees in the meantime. [18:48] Mariko: committee requirements [18:49] Mariko: or committee "wish list" [18:49] Mariko: maybe wish list is better. people don't quite know what "requirements" for web pages are. [18:49] John: right, wish list [18:50] Mariko: are you typing in two windows? [18:50] John: yes [18:50] Mariko: i'll send keath all the info [18:50] John: ok [18:50] Mariko: please tell him [18:50] John: ok [18:50] Mariko: once he knows how to use it, it'll be fun [18:51] John: positive thinking [18:52] *** "Mariko" signed off at Tue Nov 07 18:52:24 2006. [18:52] Mariko: is this session still on? [18:52] John: yea [18:53] Mariko: strange. [18:53] Mariko: wonder why it asks me to sign in repeatedly. [18:53] John: sessions don't drop for some reason [18:53] Mariko: ok, so i'll contact keath by e-mail [18:54] John: ok [18:54] Mariko: next meeting is the same time same day? [18:54] John: yes - let me confirm with keath [18:55] John: keath says ok [18:55] Mariko: ok [18:55] John: BYE [18:55] Mariko: good night. End of Mariko buffer: Tue Nov 07 19:54:44 2006

Part 3: John & Keath
Start of wallingconsulting-1833 buffer: Tue Nov 07 19:48:11 2006 [18:27] *** Mariko has joined the chat. [18:27] Mariko: ok, [18:27] *** keathrhymer has joined the chat. [18:28] Mariko: now i see three. [18:28] John: i see the trick - i must invite everyone at the same time [18:28] Mariko: hi, keath [18:28] Mariko: how are basenjis? [18:28] John: 6:28pm Pacific time [18:29] John: how is the internet connection? [18:29] Keath: loaded 1 more coming and 2 stuck in st louis the transport I had abandonded them [18:29] Keath: so far better had to dum IE and use firefox IE keeps wrecking even afte up grade [18:30] John: what verions of IE? [18:30] John: version [18:30] Keath: 6 ans and yahoo gives me fits [18:31] John: are you able to keep a connection now? [18:32] John: Mariko and I were working on a wiki page to outline a new web site [18:32] John: http://act.wikia.com/wiki/TechnologyWebDesign [18:32] John: we need to get an outline of what we want on the new web site [18:33] John: mariko is getting a crash course on wiki markup [18:33] John: do you know wiki syntax? [18:34] Keath: seem to just yahoo site boots me on email a lot and have to close and log back in [18:34] John: i can help get the skeleton outline up and you two can fill in the details [18:34] John: with input from Joanne and the committees [18:34] Keath: nope dont know any of it [18:35] John: the most basic things are headers [18:35] John: = Level 1 = [18:35] John: == Level 2 == [18:35] John: === Level 3 === [18:35] John: etc. [18:35] John: once you have the headers, an outline appears in the Table of Contents [18:35] Mariko: it's easier if we take a look at the "inards" of wiki and see how it looks outside [18:36] John: if you want a bullet list you can use an asterisk for each line [18:36] John: * item one [18:36] John: * item two [18:36] John: etc. [18:36] John: if you want a numbered outline you use hash marks [18:36] John: #level one [18:37] John: ##level two [18:37] John: etc. [18:37] Keath: ok [18:37] John: URLs link automatically [18:37] John: http://www.google.com/ creates a link [18:37] Mariko: oh, also, how about putting them side by side, like in a graphic, or Word doc? [18:38] Mariko: the wiki outside and the inside, I mean [18:38] John: Google creates a link for Google [18:38] Mariko: so that people can see how to write wiki content? [18:38] John: first create a user account at the wiki [18:39] John: you and Mariko can work together to create the web site outline [18:39] John: any questions? [18:40] Keath: they will come [18:40] John: also you need to access your account at the Drupal pages [18:40] John: http://www.animalcrisisteam.com/drupal/ [18:40] Keath: i need all the links again and whatever else youhad sent in the past [18:41] Keath: umm log in? [18:41] John: go to http://act.wikia.com/wiki/Technology/ [18:41] John: click the Discussion tab at the top [18:41] Keath: don nothing there [18:43] John: are you at the Discussion page? [18:43] *** Mariko has left the chat. [18:44] Keath: yes 06-601 Mix [18:44] Keath: http://act.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Technology/&action=edit [18:45] John: did you want to edit? [18:46] Keath: no when I chose discussion thats what it did on its own [18:46] Keath: did it all again now This page doesn't exist yet. note [18:48] John: that was a mistake - close it [18:48] Keath: done [18:49] John: can you navigate to the Technology discussion page? [18:49] Keath: though I was there [18:50] John: do you see a table of contents at the top of the page [18:50] Keath: i closed out all [18:50] John: let's try this again [18:50] John: http://act.wikia.com/wiki/Technology [18:51] John: do you see the Technology page? [18:51] Keath: yes [18:52] John: ok, if you click the Discussin tab, you should see a new page, but not in edit mode [18:52] John: discussion [18:52] Keath: got it [18:53] John: just a second [18:53] John: my browser is running slow [18:54] John: mariko is leaving - she wants to know if the next meeting is for same day & time [18:54] John: ok? [18:55] Keath: ok [18:55] John: at the bottom of the Table of Contents click RESOURCES [18:55] Keath: ok [18:57] John: i will maintain an up-to-date list of resources at that location, if you bookmark the page you can use it without having to keep mail copies [18:57] Keath: done [18:57] John: if you go to the top of the page you will see an Archive link [18:58] Keath: you mean history [18:58] John: click that link and you should see links for the Archived minutes [18:58] John: no [18:58] John: Talk:Technology : Animal Crisis Team see Archive Table of Contents [18:59] John: see Archive Table of Contents [18:59] John: that last one is a link [18:59] John: see it? [18:59] Keath: ok [18:59] John: click it [18:59] Keath: done [19:00] John: Talk:Technology/Archive-01 [19:00] John: this is the first page for archived minutes [19:00] John: as you go down the list you will see links to the old minutes [19:00] Keath: only see 2=15 [19:01] John: 2=15? [19:01] John: send me the link to the page [19:01] Keath: http://act.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Technology/Archive-01 [19:01] John: Technology Meetings [edit] 1 Current Technology Meeting Talk:Technology [edit] 2 Technology Meeting - Tuesday Nov 2, 2006 Talk:Technology/Archive-02 [19:02] John: do you see the above? [19:02] Keath: got it clicked it [19:02] John: ok, this is where i will link to the old minutes [19:02] Keath: ok [19:03] John: the next meeting is always here: http://act.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Technology [19:03] Keath: ok [19:03] John: that way i can make changes and you will have access to the latest information [19:04] John: before sharon left, she asked me to relay info [19:04] Keath: ok [19:04] John: she said she will send you some directions for updating the web site outline page [19:04] Keath: ok [19:05] John: and she wanted you to get a "Wish List" from the committee members for what they want [19:05] Keath: will do [19:05] John: mariko, is working with Joanne on the old web site and how to              convert it [19:06] John: bookmark this http://act.wikia.com/wiki/TechnologyWebDesign [19:06] Keath: done [19:06] John: that is where the outline will be maintained [19:06] John: create a wiki account [19:06] John: so we can track who makes the changes [19:06] Keath: done waiting on you to approve [19:07] John: ok [19:08] John: i haven't done that of awhile - just a second [19:08] Keath: is it good across the group site [19:09] John: my understanding is if you have a wiki account at wikia you can use it on any wiki hosted by wikia [19:10] John: is that what you were asking? [19:10] Keath: yes for us [19:11] John: what is your username at wikia.com? [19:11] Keath: Keath and it sent me a password but said need your aproval before can log in [19:12] John: let me check my email [19:12] Keath: so must be for tecnologu only [19:12] John: no - it should be wiki wide [19:13] Keath: hmmm maybe need one for wiki only totally [19:13] John: i see the problem - you asked for a new account at the http://www.animalcrisisteam.com/drupal/ [19:14] Keath: oh sorry [19:14] John: you already have an account there [19:14] Keath: oh' [19:14] John: Keath@basenjirescue.us dogrun [19:14] John: password dogrun [19:14] Keath: wher do i log in at then? [19:15] John: for the wiki you need to go to the wiki page, and click the create account link at the top of any page [19:16] John: go to http://act.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Technology [19:16] John: look in the upper right corner [19:17] John: Log in / create account [19:17] John: click the create account [19:18] John: when you go to the wiki you can login on any page after you have an account [19:18] Keath: ok [19:19] John: each time you make an edit, your changes are logged and can be viewed with the History Tab [19:19] Keath: done it now its just sits A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: INSERT INTO `wikicities`.`user` (user_id,user_name,user_password,              user_newpassword,user_email,user_email_authenticated,               user_real_name,user_options,user_token,user_registration) VALUES (NULL,'Keath@basenjirescue.us',,,,NULL,,'              quickbar=1\nunderline=2\ncols=80\nrows=25\nsearchlimit=20\               ncontextlines=5\ncontextchars=50\nskin=monobook\nmath=1\nrcdays=7\               nrclimit=50\nwllimit=250\nhighlightbroken=1\nstubthreshold=0\               npreviewontop=1\neditsection=1\neditsectiononrightclick=0\nshowtoc=1\               nshowtoolbar=1\ndate=0\nimagesize=2\nthumbsize=2\nrememberpassword=0\               nenotifwatchlistpages=0\nenotifusertalkpages=1\nenotifminoredits=0\               nenotifrevealaddr=0\n [19:20] Keath: finally workeing now [19:20] John: did you have to change your username to get it to work? [19:20] Keath: it created and then just sat there went back to login and used                my email and password I vreated [19:21] Keath: created [19:21] John: does your password work correctly? [19:21] Keath: yes [19:21] John: what is your username? [19:21] Keath: keath@basenjirescue.us [19:22] John: are you logged in? [19:22] Keath: ****** did not work had ot create a new account [19:22] Keath: yes [19:23] John: do you see a tab called "my talk" at the top? [19:23] Keath: yes [19:24] John: ok click it and make some edits - it can be just "Hello" [19:25] Keath: ok done [19:26] Keath: working [19:26] John: ok, click Recent Changes in the left navigation window [19:26] John: do you see your edit link at the top of the list? [19:26] Keath: yep [19:26] Keath: did 2 edits [19:27] Keath: can you see them also? [19:27] John: ok click the blue link back to your talk page [19:27] John: yes i see both [19:27] John: notice one link was red [19:27] Keath: done i see what i put in [19:27] John: click the history tab [19:28] Keath: no red one' [19:28] Keath: ok there history of revisions [19:28] John: back on the Recent Changes page there was a red link [19:28] John: red means no content [19:29] Keath: ok [19:29] John: click the Compate button [19:29] John: Compare button [19:29] Keath: thata why bwcaue therw is now [19:29] Keath: tep see both edits [19:29] John: do you have a rollback link? you may not [19:30] John: that may be restricted to sysop [19:31] John: if you had made several changes you could click the Previous Revision link and go back in time [19:31] John: Previous diff [19:32] John: if you want to see a page as it was in a previous version, you do History, Compare, and then click the "Revision as of ...." link at the top of the page. [19:33] John: to get some help, click the "Help" link in the Nav side bar [19:34] John: can you get to the Help page/ [19:34] John: page? [19:35] Keath: uyes [19:36] John: if you go down the help links you will go from basic to advanced [19:37] Keath: ok [19:37] John: you only need to know about 8 basic formats to get started [19:38] John: also be using the edit function on more complex pages you can examine the markup to see how certain effects were accomplished [19:39] John: this wiki has the same wiki engine as the one used at Wikipedia - so you can examine page there alos [19:39] John: also [19:39] John: do you use Wikipedia? [19:42] John: ok, let's review progress at our next meeting - be sure to login into the Drupal account at http://www.animalcrisisteam.com/drupal/ [19:42] John: Keath@basenjirescue.us ****** [19:43] John: password = ****** [19:43] John: try to get the lay of the land on Drupal - we will be selecting a new Theme and adding some new modules as needed [19:45] John: if you go to http://act.wikia.com/wiki/Technology you can get an               overview of the modules that are Enabled and the ones that can be               added, plus i started a list of Themes at the bottom to be considered. [19:45] John: I installed the Tinymce module for the WYSIWYG editor but I am              have some problems getting it to work [19:46] John: hopefully, i can figure it out soon [19:46] Keath: will do [19:46] John: it's late, so i will let you get back to your routine [19:47] John: thanks [19:47] John: good night End of John-1833 buffer: Tue Nov 07 19:48:11 2006